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Spaces will come but I miss them too. Threads are another feather that I miss on Elemen X

Matrix works great. Element X is my favourite client.

They started out with sort of a ‘fail forward’ approach where as German entities were encouraged to try and implement different types of open source software of OS’es. Those experiments have led to a broader understanding and in the meantime they funded the greater project that became OpenDesk.

This year they joined forced with the French government where the were doing the same sort of project with La Suite. The French and the German team joined in a 100 day sprint to deliver somewhere around September.

And I forgot to mention that the French government is on board as well.

They on their side are launching La Suite which is based on the same building block as OpenDesk.

https://code.gouv.fr/en/lasuite/

Some figures for those wondering how broadly adapted this open source suite is.

• Tchap: the trusted instant messaging service for the public sector used daily by 200,000 users. An extension of the Albert AI tool is planned for Tchap soon, during the summer.

• State audio conference with nearly 8,000 users for 700 weekly meetings (2024 figure as of mid-May).

• State web conference with 47,000 users for 10,000 weekly meetings (2024 figure as of mid-May).

• State webinar: the webinar service which can accommodate up to 350 participants, public officials and interlocutors from outside the State (from the public, private or associative sectors) has recorded more than 800,000 users for 65,000 meetings weekly (2024 figure as of mid-May).

• France transfer: the simple and secure solution for sending large files with 140,000 users having exchanged more than 350,000 letters (2024 figure as of mid-May).

• Resana, a public sector collaborative platform with 140,000 users and nearly 800,000 documents shared/month (2024 figure as of mid-May).

Sleswich-Holstein is one of the first states to ditch Microsoft.

You have to know that all of this takes time. They’ve decided to follow this path in 2022 and were aiming for the first results to appear in 2025.

Two weeks ago ZenDis launched OpenDesk 1.0. https://www.openproject.org/blog/sovereign-workplace/

Are you sure?

Just about two weeks ago they launched OpenDesk.

https://www.digitale-verwaltung.de/SharedDocs/kurzmeldungen/Webs/DV/DE/2024/10_zendis.html

Element chat is integrated in this suite and is allready vastly used by the federal government, the army,…

I think no government anywhere else has embraced open source as much as Germany does.

The are building their sovereign cloud and different states, Schools, government departments, hospitals… are joining.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/04/german-state-gov-ditching-windows-for-linux-30k-workers-migrating/#gsc.tab=0

They’ve put their money where their mout is by creating a sovereign tech fund.

https://www.sovereigntechfund.de/

They move slowly, as governments do, but they have a goal and a plan. It’s not easy to switch and running contracts have to reach the end of their term but when these contracts are over the move will be huge.

Thanks. I agree with your conclusion. I probably have spent too much time in privacy communities. In the end you’ll have to trust someone.

I’ve set up some tunnels. Works nice but then the voices came. ‘Why would you trust a company like Cloudflare with all your data?’ ‘Why rely on this one company for all your services?’

Nearly a year into my selfhosting journey and I’m more confused than ever.

Sneakily adds an alfabethical sort option to that request.

Element X is fast Indeed.

There are more cool organisations that use Element.

• US navy
• US space force
• French government
• German defence force

It’s more a Skype alternative at the moment though.

Because we (the EU citizens) need some internet and software sovereignty. It’s a valid desire. Most of the governments run on software owned by companies that can be under control of foreign nations.

A certain level of independence is good for any nation, group, society.

Besides from that EU law provides us with some guarantees regarding privacy. If a company doesn’t respect our privacy, we have the means to defend ourselves.

https://element.io/app-for-productivity

https://element.io/app-for-productivity

Element x does screen sharing

Great post!

https://f-droid.org/packages/io.element.android.x/

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f-droid seems a few versions behind.

https://apkpure.com/element-x-secure-messenger/io.element.android.x/download

I only have some concerns about their incomplete privacy policy. What’s in it for them? Will my data be sold?

Dirt cheap actually. But still I’m setting up a self hosted version. I suppose that’s why we’re here.

No background but I can read and listen. There are plenty of resources around.

I started out of privacy concerns and I wanted to deGoogle It started this year with a RPI and pihole. Then I saw Mealie, bought a domain, and started sharing recipes with my family.

At first I messed around with Casa OS. It’s like a gateway drug. So easy to use and get stuff running.

Last week a 2nd hand i5 arrived and now I moved everything to proxmox. The RPI is still running pihole. At the moment I’m setting up Immich and I’m thinking about buying a NAS.

Since it is a new hobby I keep everything low cost. If it sticks I’ll invest in a proper home server.