i don’t remember where i got this from

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      The joke: In any base X, the Xth number is always the first number to require a second digit. Base 4 goes 1,2,3,10,11,12,13,20,21,etc. Base 7 goes 1,2,3,4,5,6,10,etc.

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        But the joke would only work written, not spoken first contact? Base five we would still say five just the numerals would show 10.

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          That alien doesn’t even have a numeral for 4, so it wouldn’t have a word for it either. If it speaks English, uses base 4, and uses the same words we do for numbers, it would sound like this when counting rocks: “One, two, three, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, twenty…”. But when it says “twelve”, it means the same thing as when we say “six”.

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        So the base is always written as base 10 in the native base. So base 2 (in decimal) is base 10 (in base 2)

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          If you want another example, try counting to 10 in hex (base 16).

          Also, base 10 is always base 10, but “10” in base 2 is 2 in all counting systems above base 2 (since base 2 doesn’t actually include 2, just like base 10 doesn’t include “A”). Likewise, 10 in base 10 represented in base 2 would be 1010. ;)

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            Base 1 usually uses ones, because it represents summation at that point. Using zero as the numeral would be a bit awkward. Also historically zero is pretty new.

            Tally marks are essentially a base 1 system.

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              Numbering systems all essentially evolved from base 1. People started out keeping track of wheat/barley using tally marks representing a single stalk, then creating different tally marks representing bushels, baskets, etc. More intentionally designed number systems based on things like the number of fingers on our hands came later.