• Xeelee@kbin.social
    8·
    1 year ago

    Luckily, we have an endless supply of virgins to sacrifice. Nobody said they have to be female, right?

  • Korne127@lemmy.worldEnglish
    11·
    1 year ago

    This is the one thing where my opinion might be highly unpopular, but I don’t see circular dependencies as something bad. If you write really structured modularised code, and just use the APIs of the different modules, it is completely fine to have different modules all depend on each other. At least in object oriented programming, using this approach that’s almost guaranteed to happen.
    E.g. imagine a configuration module: Other modules need access to the configuration module to get the different entry values, but the configuration module needs access to other modules to change specific stuff if you change a configuration entry. Of course you could separate that module into one data part and one action part changing the data and doing stuff in other modules, but if you use many modules like that, this will just become even more complicated and lead to duplicated structures (e.g. a specific data tree plus the exact same tree for actions) which would be cleaner if it was directly in the same module.
    Or a different example: An (e.g. discord) bot which is connected in one module, and both messages to the bot can lead to the module getting informations from other modules and actions in other modules can trigger the bot, leading to them depending on each other.

    • eth0p@iusearchlinux.fyiEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Circular dependencies can be removed in almost every case by splitting out a large module into smaller ones and adding an interface or two.

      In your bot example, you have a circular dependency where (for example) the bot needs to read messages, then run a command from a module, which then needs to send messages back.

          v-----------\
  bot    command_foo
    \-----------^

      This can be solved by making a command conform to an interface, and shifting the responsibility of registering commands to the code that creates the bot instance.

          main <---
    ^        \
    |          \
    bot ---> command_foo

      The bot module would expose the Bot class and a Command instance. The command_foo module would import Bot and export a class implementing Command.

      The main function would import Bot and CommandFoo, and create an instance of the bot with CommandFoo registered:

      // bot module
export interface Command {
    onRegister(bot: Bot, command: string);
    onCommand(user: User, message: string);
}

// command_foo module
import {Bot, Command} from "bot";
export class CommandFoo implements Command {
    private bot: Bot;

    onRegister(bot: Bot, command: string) {
        this.bot = bot;
    }

    onCommand(user: User, message: string) {
        this.bot.replyTo(user, "Bar.");
    }
}

// main
import {Bot} from "bot";
import {CommandFoo} from "command_foo";

let bot = new Bot();
bot.registerCommand("/foo", new CommandFoo());
bot.start();

      It’s a few more lines of code, but it has no circular dependencies, reduced coupling, and more flexibility. It’s easier to write unit tests for, and users are free to extend it with whatever commands they want, without needing to modify the bot module to add them.

    • Elderos@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      0·
      1 year ago

      It does not get more complicated to split your example. What gets more complicated is giving all sort of unrelated responsabilities to a single class, simply because it is the path of least resistance.

      In your example, all you need is an extra module listening for configuration changes and reacting to it. This way you leave your context-specific logic out of your data model, no need for cyclic dependency. There are so many downsides to cyclic dependency, to justify it because splitting your logic is “too complicated” really isn’t a strong argument.

      • Korne127@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        I honestly don’t see a single downside, as long as it’s modularised, maintainable and with clean APIs. And e.g. with a configuration module: The place where I’ve experienced this was a place where bigger parts of the configuration module were classes to build specific custom tree configurations. And if one module would just save what should happen at the change of each entry (and not save that with that entry), it would need to duplicate the whole structure and map it to the entries, which is ugly. It just makes sense to put those strongly related configurational things into one configuration module which provides an easy API (one method for changing and one for retrieving a config element after constructing it and adding other modules).

  • TheSaneWriter@lemmy.thesanewriter.comEnglish
    0·
    1 year ago

    Satan has created a library that runs as efficiently as possible and covers every possible use case, and all we need to do to get access is sacrifice 1000 virgins. Do it for the cause.