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I don’t understand why they don’t just put “My” on it: MyMail, MyOutlook etc.
Working in IT Support, the fact that Outlook refers to webmail and two distinct email clients makes understanding user’s problems a nightmare.
From my experience, Microsoft has generally the worst web developers it seems. It’s not only the naming, but a lot of their websites work horrible. Teams never even worked in Firefox, say whut?
Years ago I got a copy of MSDN which had apparently been put together by developers who all had giant monitors. On a normal laptop screen none of the text wrapped properly so every article had a horizontal scrollbar which you had to work left and right to read every fucking line. I eventually had to start copying the contents into a Notepad instance just to be able to read the damn things normally.
This is why I think developers should always have to work on 10-year-old laptops with 800x600 screens.
I think it sort of worked on firefox for a spell a while back but screen sharing and other stuff was broken. Then I think it stopped entirely and showed a “use edge” callout.
I switched to the electron client they provided and it used to work pretty ok for years but recently they anounced they were killing it on linux for some reason (to be fair there were no updates I could discern for months).
They now ignore linux entirely in the desktop clients section and redirect to a qr code to download the android app if you go to a download page on a linux machine.
I have chromium just to be able to get on a call if needed.
There is now “Teams Classic” and “New Teams” as well.
All this to say, yes. MS enshitification is real. Sorry I know you did not sign up to get this wall of text.
Outlook
Outlook (New)
Outlook (Newer)
Outlook (Newest)
Outlook (Newest final)
Outlook (Newest final V2)
Outlook (fuck, we screwed up, please disregard the previous one)
What do they do? Fire all the seniors every three years and just start over with recent college grads? (No offense intended to the newer folks)
That’s literally how the software industry works.
umm yes, actually.
clicks new
“Sorry, I don’t know how to open an email file.”
“.eml is a format for e-machine learning”
Lol, I remember eMachines!
Never obsolete!
“By the way, have you tried Edge? We’ve switched it to be your default browser not just in your operating system, but in Teams and Outlook too! You’re welcome.”
They somehow got the message and actually implemented that it can *checks notes* open emails.
Amazing.
I guess they don’t git it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I tried new outlook once and it was such a fucking disaster I’m still shaking from it 6 months later. It was also a giant pain to go back to classic.
It didn’t last one afternoon on my work laptop. I went to save an attachment from a vendor and couldn’t pick the folder it saved to. They literally got rid of SAVE AS.
Fuck Microsoft.
They also ditched PST file support.
I’ve witnessed similar corporate screwups from the inside, I know the greed and political games and misaligned incentives that allow for such an obviously and catastrophically badly scoped project to be pushed dead-on-arrival in production, against the advice of literally anyone with a pair of eyes and literally any honesty.
Intellectually, I understand. Yet my heart doesn’t, because it refuses to believe the sheer amount of collective stupidity and outright malice at every level of management, consistently for years on end, required to achieve these outcomes. How anyone can sleep at night with “Product Manager for New Outlook” on their resume is beyond me.
